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		<title>By: JA pols vs. bloggers: Round 2 &#171; Global Wire Associates</title>
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		<dc:creator>JA pols vs. bloggers: Round 2 &#171; Global Wire Associates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is now also calling to outlaw J-FLAG. Some Caribbean bloggers are calling for both Golding and Smith to resign, while others hope this latest incident will make [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kadene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kadene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share your sentiments Trevor.  The tragedy is that too many of the young hopefuls have been schooled by the uninspired, and come into the political arena with similar approaches and attitudes. Their political success and accession to power within the party are based on how well they toe the party line. They have to prove their mettle, and it is this initiation that may taint them or temper whatever idealism they started out with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share your sentiments Trevor.  The tragedy is that too many of the young hopefuls have been schooled by the uninspired, and come into the political arena with similar approaches and attitudes. Their political success and accession to power within the party are based on how well they toe the party line. They have to prove their mettle, and it is this initiation that may taint them or temper whatever idealism they started out with.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Dawes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Dawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kadene, in answer to the question in the last paragraph, unfortunately, Jamaica&#039;s options are very limited in terms of leadershiip. We know it&#039;s not Portia and in my personal opinion it&#039;s Peter Phillips. Beyond that, I&#039;m afraid it will have to be a generational change and someone younger with less baggage will have to step up to the plate. The question then becomes: who is such a person and will Jamaicans have enough trust in them to elect them leader?

This assumes that this individual is prepared to come in and clean house and make the needed changes to get Jamaica on a sounder moral, social, and economic/financial footing. It is glaringly apparent that the present folks don&#039;t possess the fortitude, attitude and aptitude to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kadene, in answer to the question in the last paragraph, unfortunately, Jamaica&#8217;s options are very limited in terms of leadershiip. We know it&#8217;s not Portia and in my personal opinion it&#8217;s Peter Phillips. Beyond that, I&#8217;m afraid it will have to be a generational change and someone younger with less baggage will have to step up to the plate. The question then becomes: who is such a person and will Jamaicans have enough trust in them to elect them leader?</p>
<p>This assumes that this individual is prepared to come in and clean house and make the needed changes to get Jamaica on a sounder moral, social, and economic/financial footing. It is glaringly apparent that the present folks don&#8217;t possess the fortitude, attitude and aptitude to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor Dawes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Dawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article, Kadene.  This is a problem with the so-called leaders Jamaica has had for the last almost 18 yrs now. I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll repeat it here: Bruce Golding has realised his lifelong ambitions - he&#039;s become leader of the JLP and PM of Jamaica.  Now, he can die a happy man for having achieved both positions. Now that I think about it, that&#039;s all one could write on his head stone.

As for Ernest Smith&#039;s rants about homosexuals, well he&#039;s just one more in a line of fools and hypocrites that have come to prominence for all the wrong reasons. It also proves that ignorance and stupidity are not exclusive to the PNP but are alive, well and thriving in the governing JLP and we all wonder why Jamaica is where it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, Kadene.  This is a problem with the so-called leaders Jamaica has had for the last almost 18 yrs now. I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll repeat it here: Bruce Golding has realised his lifelong ambitions &#8211; he&#8217;s become leader of the JLP and PM of Jamaica.  Now, he can die a happy man for having achieved both positions. Now that I think about it, that&#8217;s all one could write on his head stone.</p>
<p>As for Ernest Smith&#8217;s rants about homosexuals, well he&#8217;s just one more in a line of fools and hypocrites that have come to prominence for all the wrong reasons. It also proves that ignorance and stupidity are not exclusive to the PNP but are alive, well and thriving in the governing JLP and we all wonder why Jamaica is where it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this paradox where, for all the high morals of Jamaicans,  of all the countries in the world, the country ranks as the third most murderous? I think it would serve my home-based countrymen well to indulge themselves in some soul-searching, to pinpoint the source of their bloodlust and hatred for each other. I never see this kind of maniacal reaction when kids are murdered or children&#039;s decapitated heads are found in crocus bags. Seems like the fury is reserved for the gays.

Jamaica is one sorry nation, focusing on this when there are so many other pressing matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this paradox where, for all the high morals of Jamaicans,  of all the countries in the world, the country ranks as the third most murderous? I think it would serve my home-based countrymen well to indulge themselves in some soul-searching, to pinpoint the source of their bloodlust and hatred for each other. I never see this kind of maniacal reaction when kids are murdered or children&#8217;s decapitated heads are found in crocus bags. Seems like the fury is reserved for the gays.</p>
<p>Jamaica is one sorry nation, focusing on this when there are so many other pressing matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard G. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard G. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith – You had better be careful in respect the Jamaican Broadcasting Commission that chose to focus on dance styles and lyrics regarding human sexuality, rather than actions and lyrics that prescribe beating gay men, raping lesbians, and murdering informers; they may rule your comments a violation of their self-imposed ethics.  I don’t know about you, but I first learned about maama man, two-pot covers, and Go-Go in Jamaica.

It would appear that you suffer from a Jamaican resident form of “elitism” with your generalized comments.  Simply living in another country does not mean you adopt, much less accept, their lifestyles.  In fact, there have always been ample opportunities in Jamaica to adopt unhealthy, deeming, and abominable lifestyles; and, this is increasing as time rolls on especially with faster media and access to many questionable sources.

You should study Arab art and history as their societies were know for homosexuality and other depravities; it is Islam that claimed to be against such behaviors, but even in some Islamic States, male prisoners are buggered by guards as part of their interrogation while women are repeatedly raped.  Your will also find that many Islamic States not only diminish women via illiteracy, but consider them the lowest form of humanity.

Bruce had no choice but to say that he would not appoint homosexuals to his cabinet.  Had he said otherwise, he would have been advised, by dance hall vocalists, to find an English cork then run and jump over the Victoria Pier.  He was being politically correct, but that does not mean that there is no closet, bi, or down-low activities going on... Anyway, Kadene’s article was not about private lifestyles but about political behavior.

I have always maintained that the JLP would not have returned to office anytime soon had the NEC not selected Portia via plurality, rather than via a run-off election - she did not have the support of the majority of party delegates.  The PNP gave Bruce a victory that he never earned – he never won a parliamentary seat as NDM President.  Therefore, although he may be a good man, I do not have high expectations for him at this time.

Politics is a strange animal, as the politicians strategize to gain power and influence, while the electorate may vote comprehensively, single issue, or a mix.  However, Obama’s rise in the American system may well be the stimulus for true reform in Jamaica’s politics and governance.  Mass media and the Internet connect us all, and give us lessons in POL/PAD101: Politics and Administration that we never had before.

We as a people need to be less gullible, and recognize and acknowledge our Creator given skills and abilities.  We need to stop looking for a single person to change things and recognize that change is within us and not beyond us.  “Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds”, “Open up your eyes and see, inside is your reality; Open up your eyes and see, what you see can be your reality.” 

Give Us Vision Lest We Perish,

Richard G. Williams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith – You had better be careful in respect the Jamaican Broadcasting Commission that chose to focus on dance styles and lyrics regarding human sexuality, rather than actions and lyrics that prescribe beating gay men, raping lesbians, and murdering informers; they may rule your comments a violation of their self-imposed ethics.  I don’t know about you, but I first learned about maama man, two-pot covers, and Go-Go in Jamaica.</p>
<p>It would appear that you suffer from a Jamaican resident form of “elitism” with your generalized comments.  Simply living in another country does not mean you adopt, much less accept, their lifestyles.  In fact, there have always been ample opportunities in Jamaica to adopt unhealthy, deeming, and abominable lifestyles; and, this is increasing as time rolls on especially with faster media and access to many questionable sources.</p>
<p>You should study Arab art and history as their societies were know for homosexuality and other depravities; it is Islam that claimed to be against such behaviors, but even in some Islamic States, male prisoners are buggered by guards as part of their interrogation while women are repeatedly raped.  Your will also find that many Islamic States not only diminish women via illiteracy, but consider them the lowest form of humanity.</p>
<p>Bruce had no choice but to say that he would not appoint homosexuals to his cabinet.  Had he said otherwise, he would have been advised, by dance hall vocalists, to find an English cork then run and jump over the Victoria Pier.  He was being politically correct, but that does not mean that there is no closet, bi, or down-low activities going on&#8230; Anyway, Kadene’s article was not about private lifestyles but about political behavior.</p>
<p>I have always maintained that the JLP would not have returned to office anytime soon had the NEC not selected Portia via plurality, rather than via a run-off election &#8211; she did not have the support of the majority of party delegates.  The PNP gave Bruce a victory that he never earned – he never won a parliamentary seat as NDM President.  Therefore, although he may be a good man, I do not have high expectations for him at this time.</p>
<p>Politics is a strange animal, as the politicians strategize to gain power and influence, while the electorate may vote comprehensively, single issue, or a mix.  However, Obama’s rise in the American system may well be the stimulus for true reform in Jamaica’s politics and governance.  Mass media and the Internet connect us all, and give us lessons in POL/PAD101: Politics and Administration that we never had before.</p>
<p>We as a people need to be less gullible, and recognize and acknowledge our Creator given skills and abilities.  We need to stop looking for a single person to change things and recognize that change is within us and not beyond us.  “Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds”, “Open up your eyes and see, inside is your reality; Open up your eyes and see, what you see can be your reality.” </p>
<p>Give Us Vision Lest We Perish,</p>
<p>Richard G. Williams</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No gays in my cabinet either. A lot of you Jamaicans living abroad are quite quick to adopt the nastiness of Western &#039;elitism&quot;. This is exactly why Arabs dislike the west.

As long as you can be pushing your pelvis in some man&#039;s face at Carnival, or dropping out of your clothes at a cocktail party, as long as it is a WHITE MAN perversion, you are happy to accept it. Thank GOD Golding has the courage of his convictions!

It is cute now for the usually GOD fearing Jamaican to support children born out of wedlock, boys prostituting themselves, whores selling themselves to tourists and others (sorry, they are commercial sex workers)

You have indeed become a nasty bunch when you can tolerate the thought of a man&#039;s penis reaming another&#039;s ass in the name of LOVE.

So sophisticated! So erudite! WOW! But certainly NOT Jamaican.

Mr Golding is dividing WHOM? The 300 gays in Jamaica from the other 3.5 million? I can assure you that others like us are about to rise and put a stop to the slackness. While you gay and straight run up and down, looking money, cheating on wives, husbands and &quot;partners&quot; and insulting God Almighty in the name of &quot;tolerance&quot; there is a core of us that knows that this too shall pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No gays in my cabinet either. A lot of you Jamaicans living abroad are quite quick to adopt the nastiness of Western &#8216;elitism&#8221;. This is exactly why Arabs dislike the west.</p>
<p>As long as you can be pushing your pelvis in some man&#8217;s face at Carnival, or dropping out of your clothes at a cocktail party, as long as it is a WHITE MAN perversion, you are happy to accept it. Thank GOD Golding has the courage of his convictions!</p>
<p>It is cute now for the usually GOD fearing Jamaican to support children born out of wedlock, boys prostituting themselves, whores selling themselves to tourists and others (sorry, they are commercial sex workers)</p>
<p>You have indeed become a nasty bunch when you can tolerate the thought of a man&#8217;s penis reaming another&#8217;s ass in the name of LOVE.</p>
<p>So sophisticated! So erudite! WOW! But certainly NOT Jamaican.</p>
<p>Mr Golding is dividing WHOM? The 300 gays in Jamaica from the other 3.5 million? I can assure you that others like us are about to rise and put a stop to the slackness. While you gay and straight run up and down, looking money, cheating on wives, husbands and &#8220;partners&#8221; and insulting God Almighty in the name of &#8220;tolerance&#8221; there is a core of us that knows that this too shall pass.</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAWN... this too will be forgotten</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAWN&#8230; this too will be forgotten</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Jamaica: All That Glitters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Jamaica: All That Glitters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] statements from a member of the Jamaica Prime Minister&#039;s cabinet prompts Abeng News Magazine&#039;s Kadene Porter to say: &#8220;The abundance of divisive nonsense-statements that he and his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ESTEBAN AGOSTO REID</title>
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		<dc:creator>ESTEBAN AGOSTO REID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent piece Kadene! Apparently, there are no exits for Jamaica, at least, not at this juncture. Undoubtedly, Jamaica seems to be caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Or, to phrase it in another manner, Jamaica is definitely caught between a rock and a hard place. Indeed, the coming fury/turbulence is inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent piece Kadene! Apparently, there are no exits for Jamaica, at least, not at this juncture. Undoubtedly, Jamaica seems to be caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Or, to phrase it in another manner, Jamaica is definitely caught between a rock and a hard place. Indeed, the coming fury/turbulence is inevitable.</p>
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